Incline Halls of Torment – if Diablo and VS had a beautiful lovechild destined to be its own person!

[Sukhāvatī]

Steam reviews not enjoying the update it seems.

 

[Gerrard]

Most of the complaining reviews I see are some variation of "I can no longer beat every stage with my eyes closed and picking random upgrades waaah". Sounds like a skill issue.
The enemy damage buff is questionable though.

 

[luj1]

this seems better than VS tbh

 

[Gerrard]

Cleared first map on Agony mode with archer.

Enemy damage increase is really annoying since it just forces you to build even more towards glass cannon.

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

I wouldn’t really call this a new genre. It’s basically just a Tower Defense game (specifically one where you control a playable character on the field) where you’re a moving tower and the defense point. It’s like Tower Defense folded into Horde Mode.

This game does seem interested though.

 

[Caim]

Looks like the devs wisened up and undid a fair deal of the changes made with the last patch.

 

[Just Locus]

A Vampire Survivors-inspired game that's actually fun?!

All jokes aside, I've been having a ton of fun playing Halls of Torment, it scratches that rare itch of being relaxing and engaging.

 

[luj1]

Looks like the devs wisened up and undid a fair deal of the changes made with the last patch.

did they?

 

[Üstad]

Free game from same genre. You can choose to donate of course.

 

[Haba]

Is it just me, or is the Cleric a wee bit... overpowered?

I mean, it kills all the boss in seconds (including the final lord)... Kinda dependant on getting the right levelups, I guess. But still...

Deus Vult?

 

[Elttharion]

Damn, this game is unironically great. It might be my favorite in this genre (?). I played only 10 hours so far, cleared all levels, unlocked all characters, and cleared the first two on agony. Its relatively easy but quite fun. Some things I would like to see are affixes, some random events waves, a way to combine skills and itens with more interesting effects. That and more content of course. Considering I dont have much time in the game its possible I could still need to unlock some of those tho.

Exterminator is really fun, buffing attack speed turns his flamethrower into a flamethrowing machine gun.

 

[mediocrepoet]

What's the difference between this and VS anyway? Basically what makes it more like Diablo and not just another survivors clone?

 

[Elttharion]

What's the difference between this and VS anyway? Basically what makes it more like Diablo and not just another survivors clone?

Presentation is a big part of it. Skills, characters, itemization, effects, enemies, art style etc. Also you have more control of your character, you can disable auto aim and auto attack for your main/default weapon. The skills you pick up during the run are still automatic tho.

 

[Gerrard]

I didn't even know you can't fucking AIM your attacks in VS, holy shit. Zoomers are a disease.

 

[mediocrepoet]

I didn't even know you can't fucking AIM your attacks in VS, holy shit. Zoomers are a disease.

VS you just run your guy around and pick stuff up. It's basically like Robotron except instead of a stick to move and a stick to shoot, you only worry about moving and all your attacks fire off on a set interval and direction based on the type of attack. For the most part, there's no aiming, even automated, at all.

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

I didn't even know you can't fucking AIM your attacks in VS, holy shit. Zoomers are a disease.

VS you just run your guy around and pick stuff up. It's basically like Robotron except instead of a stick to move and a stick to shoot, you only worry about moving and all your attacks fire off on a set interval and direction based on the type of attack. For the most part, there's no aiming, even automated, at all.

Aiming and shooting kind of is a big part of the twin stick shooter Robotron 2084.

That’s why I see this Vampire Survivors as an iteration on Tower Defense. You basically are a self firing moving tower taking on larger and larger waves of enemies and leveling up your “tower” with new attacks and upgrades. Even if it did function like a twin stick shooter the Tower Defense aspect would still be there, but it’s even stronger when you take away the player’s ability to aim and fire themselves. You could take the exact same style of game as Vampire Survivor and map it onto something like Defense Grid, carry over all the Defense Grid attacks, and I doubt anyone would have a problem seeing it as a different style of Tower Defense game.

 

[Vic]

I’ve played a lot of tower defense games and this genre is nothing like it

 

[mediocrepoet]

I didn't even know you can't fucking AIM your attacks in VS, holy shit. Zoomers are a disease.

VS you just run your guy around and pick stuff up. It's basically like Robotron except instead of a stick to move and a stick to shoot, you only worry about moving and all your attacks fire off on a set interval and direction based on the type of attack. For the most part, there's no aiming, even automated, at all.

Aiming and shooting kind of is a big part of the twin stick shooter Robotron 2084.

Yes. Well, not aiming, really, but yes.

That’s why I see this Vampire Survivors as an iteration on Tower Defense. You basically are a self firing moving tower taking on larger and larger waves of enemies and leveling up your “tower” with new attacks and upgrades. Even if it did function like a twin stick shooter the Tower Defense aspect would still be there, but it’s even stronger when you take away the player’s ability to aim and fire themselves. You could take the exact same style of game as Vampire Survivor and map it onto something like Defense Grid, carry over all the Defense Grid attacks, and I doubt anyone would have a problem seeing it as a different style of Tower Defense game.

... No. You lose me here every time you say this. I mean, you can keep repeating it, but it's an insane analogy to me. I make comparisons a lot of people find weird often too, so more power to you, but I don't see it.

 

[Haba]

Played a shitton more, and by now I think I am pretty done. It is good.

The main problem with the thing is the thing itself. There is only so much you can do with a concept like this. I think there would need to be something radically different to add any real "longevity" to a game in this "genre". In VS you could go really, really absurd with the end-game overpoweredness. That is fun for a moment.

But there is a limit to how many enemies you can fit to the screen before the game ceases to be a game at all. And due to the diversity of the characters, it is very hard to make challenging maps that still fit all play styles.

Solid 20 hours of fun for five bucks, it isn't bad. But I think this is probably the limit for me.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Oh man.
I was skeptical, but figured I may as well check it out. It's Diablo x Smash TV if you keep manual aiming but set up auto attack and play it like a twin stick shooter.

It's the game I wanted Vampire Survivors to be. I meant to spin it up just to check out the beginning and ended up playing it for over 3 hours. FML

9-10/10 for simple arcade style games. Excellent.

 

[Damned Registrations]

he main problem with the thing is the thing itself. There is only so much you can do with a concept like this. I think there would need to be something radically different to add any real "longevity" to a game in this "genre".

Someone should make it a battle arena game like the old battleships map on WC3. It's basically 5v5 with this style of attack and control, except obviously less overpowered and you have more control over your upgrades, aquired by selecting upgrades (weapons, armour, regen, speed, etc.) from a shop.

 

[Just Locus]

Shield Maiden sucks

 

[Gerrard]

Ha ha blender goes BRRRRRRRRR

I haven't played in a while, the orb damage is nuts.

 

[Gerrard]

The new update added 2 new character, the Sage doesn't have a main weapon and instead you can choose an ability that becomes your main weapon and benefits from all the main weapon bonuses.
This of course enables interesting results.

Oh yeah, and the brofist ability.

The new stage was kinda easy though, I guess the dev was afraid of people crying again.

 

[Just Locus]

Shieldmaiden still sucks.