Gregz
Arcane
The following is a recent conversation held on the official RPGHQ.org IRC channel.
Infinitron (who confirmed his identity), answered some questions for us. Yes, it's long. I am hoping that DarkUnderlord will read it and give us his version of events.
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Jul 22 17:00:08 <Gregz> Infinitron> https://rpgcodex.net/forums/members/infinitron.12987/ <- OK, looks like it's him
Jul 22 17:00:22 <Infinitron> but I guess it's not really important enough
Jul 22 17:00:24 <Gregz> Infinitron - are you at all cognizant of the damage you've caused to the codex over the years?
Jul 22 17:00:43 <Gregz> does it phase you in any way to know that you'd permanently destroyed the nature of discourse there?
Jul 22 17:00:51 <Gregz> driven dozens of great people away?
Jul 22 17:00:52 <rusty_mobile> Infinitroon ran here the moment someone told him we were talking about him and we were talking about twig lol
Jul 22 17:00:54 <Gregz> are you aware of any of that?
Jul 22 17:01:06 <Sex_Cult_Leader> free twig, Infinitron
Jul 22 17:01:36 <Gregz> I've always been fascinated by the mind of a pure sociopath, and now we can ask him directly
Jul 22 17:01:38 * Received a CTCP VERSION from Lutte (to #rpghq)
Jul 22 17:01:46 <FedoraMaster> Dont expect any answers
Jul 22 17:01:50 <FedoraMaster> Other than kvetching
Jul 22 17:01:52 <bossbaby> Lutte is trying to hack my gibson
Jul 22 17:01:58 <Infinitron> What are you referring to specifically Gregz
Jul 22 17:02:13 <Gregz> <Infinitron> What are you referring to specifically Gregz <- I have to take that as a no.
Jul 22 17:02:20 <Gregz> total lack of awareness
Jul 22 17:02:26 <Infinitron> Nah, I think I have affected the discourse on the Codex
Jul 22 17:02:29 <Gregz> it's incredible to me
Jul 22 17:02:46 <Gregz> <Infinitron> Nah, I think I have affected the discourse on the Codex <- and who benefited from that?
Jul 22 17:02:58 <Chonkem> im playing anime
Jul 22 17:03:01 <Lhynn43> Is it infi or someone larping as him?
Jul 22 17:03:09 <Gregz> <Gregz> Infinitron> https://rpgcodex.net/forums/members/infinitron.12987/ <- OK, looks like it's him
Jul 22 17:03:12 <rusty_mobile> Was probably disappointing to realize the only person here who talks about him is gregz, who always talks about him
Jul 22 17:03:20 <Infinitron> I think just posting a lot of news, right around the time the RPG genre renaissance started, pushed the atmosphere on the forum in a certain direction, absolutely
Jul 22 17:03:26 <Chonkem> enjoying my japanese VISUAL NOVEL, chudz
Jul 22 17:03:47 <Infinitron> And I'm aware a lot of people didn't enjoy it
Jul 22 17:03:54 <Gregz> <Infinitron> I think just posting a lot of news, right around the time the RPG genre renaissance started, pushed the atmosphere on the forum in a certain direction, absolutely <- you once referred to it as a "culture war", now that the war is over, which community will you destroy next?
Jul 22 17:03:55 <FedoraMaster> Realtalk: Fuck off, we don't want you
Jul 22 17:04:10 <Infinitron> There's this rando account on the forum that sent me an essay in DMs about how people hated me for making the forum less fun
Jul 22 17:04:28 <rusty_mobile> infinitroon is 100% welcome on the hq
Jul 22 17:04:30 <Gregz> <Infinitron> There's this rando account on the forum that sent me an essay in DMs about how people hated me for making the forum less fun <- not less fun, less real, without a soul, destroyed
Jul 22 17:04:48 <Gregz> incapable of having real discourse or debate
Jul 22 17:05:00 <Gregz> completely neutered
Jul 22 17:05:05 <Gregz> rendered irrelevant
Jul 22 17:05:05 <rusty_mobile> I am a melting pot of friendship
Jul 22 17:05:23 * Crispy (~Crispy@Rizon-65315155.ipv4.supernova.orange.pl) has joined
Jul 22 17:05:28 <FedoraMaster> No he isn't Rusty
Jul 22 17:05:41 <Infinitron> Anyway, I think that's the main effect I had on the Codex over the years
Jul 22 17:05:41 <Infinitron> Compared to that, the SJW-related stuff like "quarantining" threads in the Gaming Drama subforum is pretty minor IMO
Jul 22 17:05:42 <Roguey> .pl huh
Jul 22 17:06:08 <FedoraMaster> First the Jews, now the Poles
Jul 22 17:06:12 <FedoraMaster> smh
Jul 22 17:06:37 <rusty_mobile> yeaaaa I ain't voicing him
Jul 22 17:06:48 <Gregz> Infinitron> Anyway, I think that's the main effect I had on the Codex over the years
Jul 22 17:06:48 <Gregz> <Infinitron> Compared to that, the SJW-related stuff like "quarantining" threads in the Gaming Drama subforum is pretty minor IMO <- I would highly highly highly encourage you to write a 3-paragraph style essay outlining what you believe you contributed to the Codex during your tenure
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Jul 22 17:07:13 <Infinitron> Aww
Jul 22 17:07:22 <Roguey> Maxie defeated
Jul 22 17:07:24 <FedoraMaster> https://youtu.be/lDC-Y-uVnl8
Jul 22 17:07:32 <FedoraMaster> "No remixed, not remastered, just the same old shit sound"
Jul 22 17:07:33 <FedoraMaster> based
Jul 22 17:07:48 <Lutte> sieg und sieg
Jul 22 17:08:08 <rusty_mobile> Lutte your friend is here
Jul 22 17:08:15 <Lutte> who?
Jul 22 17:08:16 <Chonkem> infinitroon and crispy are in here? wtf
Jul 22 17:08:31 <Roguey> That was a .pl ip it wasn't California Crispy
Jul 22 17:08:45 * Jean has quit (Quit: RPGHQ - https://rpghq.org/)
Jul 22 17:08:51 <herkzter> ???maxie???
Jul 22 17:09:02 <rusty_mobile> Infinitron, lutte
Jul 22 17:09:06 <Sex_Cult_Leader> poland is the california of eastern europe
Jul 22 17:09:07 <Gregz> <Infinitron> <- you consistently and systematically shut down any discussion of how post-gamergate political infiltration into the hobby was destroying it
Jul 22 17:09:42 <Lutte> tbh as much as infinitron sucks ultimately he's just one of DU's dogs
Jul 22 17:09:46 <Gregz> maliciously destroyed the possibility of that discussion, censored users, moved threads, banned users like 'The Wall' for rightly criticizing the assholes you regularly shilled for
Jul 22 17:09:50 <Lutte> if DU didn't want the codex to veer into this direction he would have been removed
Jul 22 17:10:05 <Lutte> what needs to be understood is that the codex's administration is where the rot lays deepest.
Jul 22 17:10:39 <Gregz> I disagree. Tovi made himself indispensable, and DU was too lazy to care
Jul 22 17:10:40 <Roguey> A tide is unmoved by the dogs barking at it
Jul 22 17:10:43 <Infinitron> The Wall was temp-banned and then let in after two days
Jul 22 17:10:43 <Infinitron> And he's not banned right now
Jul 22 17:10:47 <bossbaby> i agree crispy/DU seem to like drama and fuel it
Jul 22 17:10:50 <Gregz> so he gave him the keys and let him drive the site into the ground
Jul 22 17:10:51 <FedoraMaster> Chonkem what do you expect, two drama hogs heard we were talking shit
Jul 22 17:11:02 <rusty_mobile> He is, and may Jesus forgive me for typing this, an Australian.
Jul 22 17:11:15 <FedoraMaster> As I said, DU is just Lowtax lite
Jul 22 17:11:31 <Lutte> DU is not "too lazy" to care, he's selectively caring
Jul 22 17:11:32 <Gregz> DU is lazy and didn't want to run the site anymore, so he handed it over to a scheming jew
Jul 22 17:11:35 <Gregz> and the rest is history
Jul 22 17:11:38 <Roguey> RPG Codex respects the tribal elders
Jul 22 17:11:39 <bossbaby> lol
Jul 22 17:11:44 <Lutte> like when he steered the tranny drama, banned people who complained about the toxic shit the tranny brought
Jul 22 17:11:54 <Lutte> DU is 100% a certified degenerate who gets off trannies
Jul 22 17:11:57 <Infinitron> "you consistently and systematically shut down any discussion of how post-gamergate political infiltration into the hobby was destroying it" I made those changes in 2018, four years after GamerGate
Jul 22 17:12:04 <Infinitron> We let that shit run wild for years, man
Jul 22 17:12:14 <FedoraMaster> Not an argument
Jul 22 17:12:39 <rusty_mobile> I need a mod for hq, are you volunteering infinitron?
Jul 22 17:12:48 <Roguey> 2017 was the year gamergate decidedly lost and all mainstream games started pushing megapozzed/woke content
Jul 22 17:12:49 <Lutte> infinitron is not the guy who closed the shoutbox because there was drama caused by people who literally never posted on the forum
Jul 22 17:12:50 <Gregz> <Infinitron> "you consistently and systematically shut down any discussion of how post-gamergate political infiltration into the hobby was destroying it" I made those changes in 2018, four years after GamerGate
Jul 22 17:12:50 <Gregz> <Infinitron> We let that shit run wild for years, man <- 100% free admission. OK, so why did you do it? Were you getting kickbacks, or was it just subversive political warfare straight out of Tel Aviv?
Jul 22 17:12:55 <Lutte> like theodora and mebs
Jul 22 17:13:00 <Lutte> DU was
Jul 22 17:14:06 <Lutte> you know who needs to get bent over a stick glued to glass shards? DU.
Jul 22 17:14:25 <Gregz> DU is a bumb, but he handed the site over to this guy
Jul 22 17:14:42 <Gregz> and I really want to know what Tovi's motive was
Jul 22 17:14:53 <Gregz> if he's an angry closeted homo, I could understand it, maybe
Jul 22 17:14:56 <FedoraMaster> Its genetic, he can't help himself
Jul 22 17:15:12 <FedoraMaster> Hence why he also acts like he doesn't understand his critics
Jul 22 17:15:13 <Lutte> tovi is an autist obsessed with playing fake game journalist
Jul 22 17:15:19 <Lutte> to that end he needs developer approval
Jul 22 17:15:23 <Lutte> hence the sanitization of the codex
Jul 22 17:15:27 <FedoraMaster> Something something "slime in my fingers"
Jul 22 17:15:33 <Lutte> everything he ever did was all about sucking developer cock
Jul 22 17:15:34 <Gregz> if he has zero self awareness on why he did it, then he can say so
Jul 22 17:15:36 <rusty_mobile> Lhynn43 are any of those chink games any good?
Jul 22 17:15:42 <Infinitron> I've explained it a few times - I thought it was hurting the community in the long term that "SJW drama" was showing up in search results. Nobody should want that to be the reason that people sign up for an RPG forum
Jul 22 17:15:44 <Lutte> the pre-infinitron era had us insulting bethesda's developers openly
Jul 22 17:15:56 <Lutte> the post-infinitron has the codex banning you for offending the random devs coming here
Jul 22 17:15:56 <Infinitron> Come for the games, stick around for a year, then you can participate in that stuff
Jul 22 17:16:00 <Roguey> One of my good codex friends left in part because she was tired of all the idpol-posting on the forums that didn't exist when she first joined so I am not sympathetic to "you moved our repetitive bitching to a more appropriate subforum"
Jul 22 17:16:00 <Infinitron> No oldfag gets hurt
Jul 22 17:16:18 <Lutte> infinitron can't get enough of developer cock
Jul 22 17:16:29 <Sex_Cult_Leader> by hurting the community you mean the profits?
Jul 22 17:16:32 <FedoraMaster> Notice me senpai Soyer
Jul 22 17:16:42 <Gregz> <Infinitron> No oldfag gets hurt <- so you unilaterally made an arbitrary decision that changed the character of the site forever
Jul 22 17:16:53 <Sex_Cult_Leader> rallying against SJW stuff made the community feel a bond
Jul 22 17:16:55 <Sex_Cult_Leader> now that's gone
Jul 22 17:16:57 <Gregz> while repulsing the very best people on the site
Jul 22 17:17:14 <Infinitron> It was absolutely not to appeal to devs, I give zero shits about that
Jul 22 17:17:15 <Sex_Cult_Leader> the codex is slowly but surely resembling any other gaming site on the web
Jul 22 17:17:21 <Gregz> who didn't want to roleplay as transexual niggers
Jul 22 17:17:30 <rusty_mobile> Not slowly anymore
Jul 22 17:17:39 <Gregz> <Infinitron> It was absolutely not to appeal to devs, I give zero shits about that <- what gave you the right to make that decision?
Jul 22 17:17:48 <bossbaby> i dont think anything you could do would sanitize the forum for devs/journos, they are scared of codex
Jul 22 17:17:58 <Infinitron> After DU appointed me as admin, I made a post presenting some changes I'd been wanting to make to the site layout for a while
Jul 22 17:18:12 <Lutte> bossbaby: we used to have people from companies like bethesda posting on the codex
Jul 22 17:18:14 <Gregz> Infinitron> After DU appointed me as admin, I made a post presenting some changes I'd been wanting to make to the site layout for a while <- in the admin forum?
Jul 22 17:18:20 <Infinitron> Among them, the creation of the Tactical Gaming Forum
Jul 22 17:18:21 <rusty_mobile> The problem was allowing slavs
Jul 22 17:18:21 <Lutte> I believe people like infinitron wish to go back to that era
Jul 22 17:18:38 <bossbaby> i dont doubt that
Jul 22 17:18:38 <Infinitron> Creating Gaming Drama for gamergate discussion
Jul 22 17:18:41 <bossbaby> but i dont think its possible
Jul 22 17:18:54 <bossbaby> you would have to basically nuke tons of users and have reset era type rules
Jul 22 17:18:54 <FedoraMaster> Those subforums have no traffic, they exist for you to shuffle games off you dont want in the General
Jul 22 17:19:08 <Infinitron> and making all the Off-Topic Discussion subforums (including the Codex Public Library etc) require a year on the forum to post in as well
Jul 22 17:19:16 <FedoraMaster> Diablo 3 is in MMO, 4 is in GRPG. Completely arbitrary.
Jul 22 17:19:26 <Infinitron> Since it was all just becoming a huge social justice arena
Jul 22 17:19:39 <Lutte> "require a year" lol please as if it wasn't about the money
Jul 22 17:19:48 <rusty_mobile> Gamedevs can put content in games that openly mocks the customer and if you complain your post gets shuffled somewhere nobody looks. Seems like a good deal.
Jul 22 17:19:54 <Lutte> GD is chokeful of people who have new accounts who paid explicitely for accessing those forums
Jul 22 17:19:58 <Lutte> mind you, I'll never get those retards
Jul 22 17:20:10 <Gregz> <Infinitron> Since it was all just becoming a huge social justice arena <- free discussion *is* an arena, and you killed it
Jul 22 17:20:12 <Lutte> the codex isn't worth the toilet paper I used to wipe my arse
Jul 22 17:20:15 <Gregz> astounding arrogance
Jul 22 17:20:19 <Infinitron> rusty_mobile I don't move every discussion to Gaming Drama
Jul 22 17:20:23 <bossbaby> im noticing a pattern that aweigh only feels brave enough to shittalk people when others are doing it
Jul 22 17:20:35 <Infinitron> Nobody moved the tens of pages of bearfucking discussion in the BG3 thread
Jul 22 17:20:42 <Lutte> aweigh0101 is a humongous faggot
Jul 22 17:20:48 <FedoraMaster> Oyvey cant comprehend games that aren't linear corridors full of random fights, aka JRPGs
Jul 22 17:20:51 <bossbaby> " Nobody moved the tens of pages of bearfucking discussion in the BG3 thread" but they should have lol, that shit was just spam
Jul 22 17:20:58 <Sex_Cult_Leader> because bearfucking is useful for marketing purposes and larian doesn't mind
Jul 22 17:21:05 <Infinitron> I generally do that when it becomes a discrete viral event that derails the thread entirely
Jul 22 17:21:11 <Sex_Cult_Leader> it's when it's an inconvenience for the dev or the industry
Jul 22 17:21:31 <bossbaby> thats not even true aweigh
Jul 22 17:21:39 <bossbaby> they had multiple huge threads of it
Jul 22 17:21:43 <rusty_mobile> I made a thread specifically to mock how ridiculous wotr was ad it was moved there.
Jul 22 17:22:04 <Sex_Cult_Leader> kek
Jul 22 17:22:06 <FedoraMaster> Poles, Jews - Bad news
Jul 22 17:22:19 <Gregz> <Infinitron> I generally do that when it becomes a discrete viral event that derails the thread entirely <- who the fuck are you to 'manage' viral events? Why do you have such contempt for users who have more experience and understanding of what these games are about than you do?
Jul 22 17:22:23 <rusty_mobile> A thread that was frequently linked to on 4chan & reddit was moved to an area they couldn't view
Jul 22 17:22:39 <Lutte> GD caused drama notwithstanding, I must say, the codex became a trillion times worse to use when you goys split so many things into subforums
Jul 22 17:23:11 <bossbaby> which thread rusty_mobile
Jul 22 17:23:44 <Infinitron> Gregz That's what moderators do?
Jul 22 17:23:49 <bossbaby> i think 4chan hates codex more than the other way around
Jul 22 17:23:56 <Infinitron> Let's take something not so important for instance
Jul 22 17:23:59 <bossbaby> ive seen people get accused of "being codexers"
Jul 22 17:24:02 <rusty_mobile> Don't have a link atm, I had to go shit up the main thread to get it moved back.
Jul 22 17:24:03 <Infinitron> Remember the SJW drama surrounding Ion Fury?
Jul 22 17:24:11 <Gregz> <Infinitron> Gregz That's what moderators do? <- Only moderators with an agenda, which isn't a moderator at all
Jul 22 17:24:19 <Infinitron> Is it really such a bad thing to have a separate thread for that at the same time that people also want to discuss the game?
Jul 22 17:24:37 <rusty_mobile> It is part of the game.
Jul 22 17:24:38 <FedoraMaster> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...132422908057227406/IMG_20230722_232359540.jpg
Jul 22 17:24:40 <FedoraMaster> Look at doog
Jul 22 17:24:43 <Gregz> <Infinitron> Is it really such a bad thing to have a separate thread for that at the same time that people also want to discuss the game? <- NOT WHEN THE POLITICS *IS* THE FUCKING GAME
Jul 22 17:24:47 <Lutte> it is, because some people might not consider rewarding the devs in buying the game Infinitron if they knew about it
Jul 22 17:24:47 <Infinitron> I mean for years people accused me of being an evil megathread merger
Jul 22 17:24:47 <Infinitron> Now you DO want all discussion to be in the same thread? C'mon
Jul 22 17:24:50 <Gregz> FUCK
Jul 22 17:24:55 <rusty_mobile> Your dogs are cute, fm
Jul 22 17:25:25 <Gregz> stupid complicit assholery like this is what is driving the entire fucking hobby into the ground
Jul 22 17:25:46 <Sex_Cult_Leader> Infinitron, I think people just want spontaneity, not just being redirected like sheeple
Jul 22 17:25:58 <Sex_Cult_Leader> let threads go wild sometimes
Jul 22 17:26:24 <FedoraMaster> The normal thing to do would be to tell people to shut the fuck up about bear sex if it gets out of hand
Jul 22 17:26:29 <Lutte> >Infinitron: we reject the idea of different threads for the same game >Also Infinitron: but don't talk about issues that are controversial in the megathread
Jul 22 17:26:31 <Lutte> retard.
Jul 22 17:26:35 <FedoraMaster> Not silently rip the thread apart
Jul 22 17:26:46 <Lutte> also when we had multiple game threads
Jul 22 17:26:48 <Gregz> I guess it is just pure autism X jewish genetics. He's completely unapologetic
Jul 22 17:26:54 <FedoraMaster> Oyvey is correct
Jul 22 17:26:56 <Lutte> we didn't have subforums like game drama
Jul 22 17:27:02 <rusty_mobile> I like infinitron
Jul 22 17:27:17 <rusty_mobile> he humiliated twig, keep it up
Jul 22 17:27:23 <FedoraMaster> Rusty you are obligated by the Constitution of the United States of Weimerica to stand by Israel
Jul 22 17:27:25 <bossbaby> hahaha
Jul 22 17:27:46 <Infinitron> This was a shooter where the devs bent to SJW pressure to remove a bottle of soap named "OGAY" and then brought it back
Jul 22 17:27:46 <Infinitron> 42 pages about that:https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...p-patch-after-anti-sjw-review-bombing.129233/
Jul 22 17:27:47 <Infinitron> 50 pages in the game's main thread: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...-powered-fps-by-duke-nukem-3d-mappers.117884/
Jul 22 17:27:47 <Infinitron> Seems like...a reasonable moderation decision?
Jul 22 17:28:02 <Gregz> I'm going to post this entire chat log on SF and ping DU, see what he has to say for himself
Jul 22 17:28:16 <FedoraMaster> Youll only get a wacky zany non-response Greg
Jul 22 17:28:20 <Gregz> probably
Jul 22 17:28:25 <rusty_mobile> Why would you bother gregz?
Jul 22 17:28:33 <rusty_mobile> Just move on already.
Jul 22 17:28:34 <Sex_Cult_Leader> DU has nothing to say gregz
Jul 22 17:28:39 <Sex_Cult_Leader> what rusty says
Jul 22 17:28:42 <Lutte> there is no such a thing as improving a rotten pile of wood
Jul 22 17:28:50 <Lutte> let the codex turn full resetera
Jul 22 17:28:54 <Lutte> we don't need it
Infinitron (who confirmed his identity), answered some questions for us. Yes, it's long. I am hoping that DarkUnderlord will read it and give us his version of events.
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Jul 22 17:00:08 <Gregz> Infinitron> https://rpgcodex.net/forums/members/infinitron.12987/ <- OK, looks like it's him
Jul 22 17:00:22 <Infinitron> but I guess it's not really important enough
Jul 22 17:00:24 <Gregz> Infinitron - are you at all cognizant of the damage you've caused to the codex over the years?
Jul 22 17:00:43 <Gregz> does it phase you in any way to know that you'd permanently destroyed the nature of discourse there?
Jul 22 17:00:51 <Gregz> driven dozens of great people away?
Jul 22 17:00:52 <rusty_mobile> Infinitroon ran here the moment someone told him we were talking about him and we were talking about twig lol
Jul 22 17:00:54 <Gregz> are you aware of any of that?
Jul 22 17:01:06 <Sex_Cult_Leader> free twig, Infinitron
Jul 22 17:01:36 <Gregz> I've always been fascinated by the mind of a pure sociopath, and now we can ask him directly
Jul 22 17:01:38 * Received a CTCP VERSION from Lutte (to #rpghq)
Jul 22 17:01:46 <FedoraMaster> Dont expect any answers
Jul 22 17:01:50 <FedoraMaster> Other than kvetching
Jul 22 17:01:52 <bossbaby> Lutte is trying to hack my gibson
Jul 22 17:01:58 <Infinitron> What are you referring to specifically Gregz
Jul 22 17:02:13 <Gregz> <Infinitron> What are you referring to specifically Gregz <- I have to take that as a no.
Jul 22 17:02:20 <Gregz> total lack of awareness
Jul 22 17:02:26 <Infinitron> Nah, I think I have affected the discourse on the Codex
Jul 22 17:02:29 <Gregz> it's incredible to me
Jul 22 17:02:46 <Gregz> <Infinitron> Nah, I think I have affected the discourse on the Codex <- and who benefited from that?
Jul 22 17:02:58 <Chonkem> im playing anime
Jul 22 17:03:01 <Lhynn43> Is it infi or someone larping as him?
Jul 22 17:03:09 <Gregz> <Gregz> Infinitron> https://rpgcodex.net/forums/members/infinitron.12987/ <- OK, looks like it's him
Jul 22 17:03:12 <rusty_mobile> Was probably disappointing to realize the only person here who talks about him is gregz, who always talks about him
Jul 22 17:03:20 <Infinitron> I think just posting a lot of news, right around the time the RPG genre renaissance started, pushed the atmosphere on the forum in a certain direction, absolutely
Jul 22 17:03:26 <Chonkem> enjoying my japanese VISUAL NOVEL, chudz
Jul 22 17:03:47 <Infinitron> And I'm aware a lot of people didn't enjoy it
Jul 22 17:03:54 <Gregz> <Infinitron> I think just posting a lot of news, right around the time the RPG genre renaissance started, pushed the atmosphere on the forum in a certain direction, absolutely <- you once referred to it as a "culture war", now that the war is over, which community will you destroy next?
Jul 22 17:03:55 <FedoraMaster> Realtalk: Fuck off, we don't want you
Jul 22 17:04:10 <Infinitron> There's this rando account on the forum that sent me an essay in DMs about how people hated me for making the forum less fun
Jul 22 17:04:28 <rusty_mobile> infinitroon is 100% welcome on the hq
Jul 22 17:04:30 <Gregz> <Infinitron> There's this rando account on the forum that sent me an essay in DMs about how people hated me for making the forum less fun <- not less fun, less real, without a soul, destroyed
Jul 22 17:04:48 <Gregz> incapable of having real discourse or debate
Jul 22 17:05:00 <Gregz> completely neutered
Jul 22 17:05:05 <Gregz> rendered irrelevant
Jul 22 17:05:05 <rusty_mobile> I am a melting pot of friendship
Jul 22 17:05:23 * Crispy (~Crispy@Rizon-65315155.ipv4.supernova.orange.pl) has joined
Jul 22 17:05:28 <FedoraMaster> No he isn't Rusty
Jul 22 17:05:41 <Infinitron> Anyway, I think that's the main effect I had on the Codex over the years
Jul 22 17:05:41 <Infinitron> Compared to that, the SJW-related stuff like "quarantining" threads in the Gaming Drama subforum is pretty minor IMO
Jul 22 17:05:42 <Roguey> .pl huh
Jul 22 17:06:08 <FedoraMaster> First the Jews, now the Poles
Jul 22 17:06:12 <FedoraMaster> smh
Jul 22 17:06:37 <rusty_mobile> yeaaaa I ain't voicing him
Jul 22 17:06:48 <Gregz> Infinitron> Anyway, I think that's the main effect I had on the Codex over the years
Jul 22 17:06:48 <Gregz> <Infinitron> Compared to that, the SJW-related stuff like "quarantining" threads in the Gaming Drama subforum is pretty minor IMO <- I would highly highly highly encourage you to write a 3-paragraph style essay outlining what you believe you contributed to the Codex during your tenure
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Jul 22 17:07:13 <Infinitron> Aww
Jul 22 17:07:22 <Roguey> Maxie defeated
Jul 22 17:07:24 <FedoraMaster> https://youtu.be/lDC-Y-uVnl8
Jul 22 17:07:32 <FedoraMaster> "No remixed, not remastered, just the same old shit sound"
Jul 22 17:07:33 <FedoraMaster> based
Jul 22 17:07:48 <Lutte> sieg und sieg
Jul 22 17:08:08 <rusty_mobile> Lutte your friend is here
Jul 22 17:08:15 <Lutte> who?
Jul 22 17:08:16 <Chonkem> infinitroon and crispy are in here? wtf
Jul 22 17:08:31 <Roguey> That was a .pl ip it wasn't California Crispy
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Jul 22 17:08:51 <herkzter> ???maxie???
Jul 22 17:09:02 <rusty_mobile> Infinitron, lutte
Jul 22 17:09:06 <Sex_Cult_Leader> poland is the california of eastern europe
Jul 22 17:09:07 <Gregz> <Infinitron> <- you consistently and systematically shut down any discussion of how post-gamergate political infiltration into the hobby was destroying it
Jul 22 17:09:42 <Lutte> tbh as much as infinitron sucks ultimately he's just one of DU's dogs
Jul 22 17:09:46 <Gregz> maliciously destroyed the possibility of that discussion, censored users, moved threads, banned users like 'The Wall' for rightly criticizing the assholes you regularly shilled for
Jul 22 17:09:50 <Lutte> if DU didn't want the codex to veer into this direction he would have been removed
Jul 22 17:10:05 <Lutte> what needs to be understood is that the codex's administration is where the rot lays deepest.
Jul 22 17:10:39 <Gregz> I disagree. Tovi made himself indispensable, and DU was too lazy to care
Jul 22 17:10:40 <Roguey> A tide is unmoved by the dogs barking at it
Jul 22 17:10:43 <Infinitron> The Wall was temp-banned and then let in after two days
Jul 22 17:10:43 <Infinitron> And he's not banned right now
Jul 22 17:10:47 <bossbaby> i agree crispy/DU seem to like drama and fuel it
Jul 22 17:10:50 <Gregz> so he gave him the keys and let him drive the site into the ground
Jul 22 17:10:51 <FedoraMaster> Chonkem what do you expect, two drama hogs heard we were talking shit
Jul 22 17:11:02 <rusty_mobile> He is, and may Jesus forgive me for typing this, an Australian.
Jul 22 17:11:15 <FedoraMaster> As I said, DU is just Lowtax lite
Jul 22 17:11:31 <Lutte> DU is not "too lazy" to care, he's selectively caring
Jul 22 17:11:32 <Gregz> DU is lazy and didn't want to run the site anymore, so he handed it over to a scheming jew
Jul 22 17:11:35 <Gregz> and the rest is history
Jul 22 17:11:38 <Roguey> RPG Codex respects the tribal elders
Jul 22 17:11:39 <bossbaby> lol
Jul 22 17:11:44 <Lutte> like when he steered the tranny drama, banned people who complained about the toxic shit the tranny brought
Jul 22 17:11:54 <Lutte> DU is 100% a certified degenerate who gets off trannies
Jul 22 17:11:57 <Infinitron> "you consistently and systematically shut down any discussion of how post-gamergate political infiltration into the hobby was destroying it" I made those changes in 2018, four years after GamerGate
Jul 22 17:12:04 <Infinitron> We let that shit run wild for years, man
Jul 22 17:12:14 <FedoraMaster> Not an argument
Jul 22 17:12:39 <rusty_mobile> I need a mod for hq, are you volunteering infinitron?
Jul 22 17:12:48 <Roguey> 2017 was the year gamergate decidedly lost and all mainstream games started pushing megapozzed/woke content
Jul 22 17:12:49 <Lutte> infinitron is not the guy who closed the shoutbox because there was drama caused by people who literally never posted on the forum
Jul 22 17:12:50 <Gregz> <Infinitron> "you consistently and systematically shut down any discussion of how post-gamergate political infiltration into the hobby was destroying it" I made those changes in 2018, four years after GamerGate
Jul 22 17:12:50 <Gregz> <Infinitron> We let that shit run wild for years, man <- 100% free admission. OK, so why did you do it? Were you getting kickbacks, or was it just subversive political warfare straight out of Tel Aviv?
Jul 22 17:12:55 <Lutte> like theodora and mebs
Jul 22 17:13:00 <Lutte> DU was
Jul 22 17:14:06 <Lutte> you know who needs to get bent over a stick glued to glass shards? DU.
Jul 22 17:14:25 <Gregz> DU is a bumb, but he handed the site over to this guy
Jul 22 17:14:42 <Gregz> and I really want to know what Tovi's motive was
Jul 22 17:14:53 <Gregz> if he's an angry closeted homo, I could understand it, maybe
Jul 22 17:14:56 <FedoraMaster> Its genetic, he can't help himself
Jul 22 17:15:12 <FedoraMaster> Hence why he also acts like he doesn't understand his critics
Jul 22 17:15:13 <Lutte> tovi is an autist obsessed with playing fake game journalist
Jul 22 17:15:19 <Lutte> to that end he needs developer approval
Jul 22 17:15:23 <Lutte> hence the sanitization of the codex
Jul 22 17:15:27 <FedoraMaster> Something something "slime in my fingers"
Jul 22 17:15:33 <Lutte> everything he ever did was all about sucking developer cock
Jul 22 17:15:34 <Gregz> if he has zero self awareness on why he did it, then he can say so
Jul 22 17:15:36 <rusty_mobile> Lhynn43 are any of those chink games any good?
Jul 22 17:15:42 <Infinitron> I've explained it a few times - I thought it was hurting the community in the long term that "SJW drama" was showing up in search results. Nobody should want that to be the reason that people sign up for an RPG forum
Jul 22 17:15:44 <Lutte> the pre-infinitron era had us insulting bethesda's developers openly
Jul 22 17:15:56 <Lutte> the post-infinitron has the codex banning you for offending the random devs coming here
Jul 22 17:15:56 <Infinitron> Come for the games, stick around for a year, then you can participate in that stuff
Jul 22 17:16:00 <Roguey> One of my good codex friends left in part because she was tired of all the idpol-posting on the forums that didn't exist when she first joined so I am not sympathetic to "you moved our repetitive bitching to a more appropriate subforum"
Jul 22 17:16:00 <Infinitron> No oldfag gets hurt
Jul 22 17:16:18 <Lutte> infinitron can't get enough of developer cock
Jul 22 17:16:29 <Sex_Cult_Leader> by hurting the community you mean the profits?
Jul 22 17:16:32 <FedoraMaster> Notice me senpai Soyer
Jul 22 17:16:42 <Gregz> <Infinitron> No oldfag gets hurt <- so you unilaterally made an arbitrary decision that changed the character of the site forever
Jul 22 17:16:53 <Sex_Cult_Leader> rallying against SJW stuff made the community feel a bond
Jul 22 17:16:55 <Sex_Cult_Leader> now that's gone
Jul 22 17:16:57 <Gregz> while repulsing the very best people on the site
Jul 22 17:17:14 <Infinitron> It was absolutely not to appeal to devs, I give zero shits about that
Jul 22 17:17:15 <Sex_Cult_Leader> the codex is slowly but surely resembling any other gaming site on the web
Jul 22 17:17:21 <Gregz> who didn't want to roleplay as transexual niggers
Jul 22 17:17:30 <rusty_mobile> Not slowly anymore
Jul 22 17:17:39 <Gregz> <Infinitron> It was absolutely not to appeal to devs, I give zero shits about that <- what gave you the right to make that decision?
Jul 22 17:17:48 <bossbaby> i dont think anything you could do would sanitize the forum for devs/journos, they are scared of codex
Jul 22 17:17:58 <Infinitron> After DU appointed me as admin, I made a post presenting some changes I'd been wanting to make to the site layout for a while
Jul 22 17:18:12 <Lutte> bossbaby: we used to have people from companies like bethesda posting on the codex
Jul 22 17:18:14 <Gregz> Infinitron> After DU appointed me as admin, I made a post presenting some changes I'd been wanting to make to the site layout for a while <- in the admin forum?
Jul 22 17:18:20 <Infinitron> Among them, the creation of the Tactical Gaming Forum
Jul 22 17:18:21 <rusty_mobile> The problem was allowing slavs
Jul 22 17:18:21 <Lutte> I believe people like infinitron wish to go back to that era
Jul 22 17:18:38 <bossbaby> i dont doubt that
Jul 22 17:18:38 <Infinitron> Creating Gaming Drama for gamergate discussion
Jul 22 17:18:41 <bossbaby> but i dont think its possible
Jul 22 17:18:54 <bossbaby> you would have to basically nuke tons of users and have reset era type rules
Jul 22 17:18:54 <FedoraMaster> Those subforums have no traffic, they exist for you to shuffle games off you dont want in the General
Jul 22 17:19:08 <Infinitron> and making all the Off-Topic Discussion subforums (including the Codex Public Library etc) require a year on the forum to post in as well
Jul 22 17:19:16 <FedoraMaster> Diablo 3 is in MMO, 4 is in GRPG. Completely arbitrary.
Jul 22 17:19:26 <Infinitron> Since it was all just becoming a huge social justice arena
Jul 22 17:19:39 <Lutte> "require a year" lol please as if it wasn't about the money
Jul 22 17:19:48 <rusty_mobile> Gamedevs can put content in games that openly mocks the customer and if you complain your post gets shuffled somewhere nobody looks. Seems like a good deal.
Jul 22 17:19:54 <Lutte> GD is chokeful of people who have new accounts who paid explicitely for accessing those forums
Jul 22 17:19:58 <Lutte> mind you, I'll never get those retards
Jul 22 17:20:10 <Gregz> <Infinitron> Since it was all just becoming a huge social justice arena <- free discussion *is* an arena, and you killed it
Jul 22 17:20:12 <Lutte> the codex isn't worth the toilet paper I used to wipe my arse
Jul 22 17:20:15 <Gregz> astounding arrogance
Jul 22 17:20:19 <Infinitron> rusty_mobile I don't move every discussion to Gaming Drama
Jul 22 17:20:23 <bossbaby> im noticing a pattern that aweigh only feels brave enough to shittalk people when others are doing it
Jul 22 17:20:35 <Infinitron> Nobody moved the tens of pages of bearfucking discussion in the BG3 thread
Jul 22 17:20:42 <Lutte> aweigh0101 is a humongous faggot
Jul 22 17:20:48 <FedoraMaster> Oyvey cant comprehend games that aren't linear corridors full of random fights, aka JRPGs
Jul 22 17:20:51 <bossbaby> " Nobody moved the tens of pages of bearfucking discussion in the BG3 thread" but they should have lol, that shit was just spam
Jul 22 17:20:58 <Sex_Cult_Leader> because bearfucking is useful for marketing purposes and larian doesn't mind
Jul 22 17:21:05 <Infinitron> I generally do that when it becomes a discrete viral event that derails the thread entirely
Jul 22 17:21:11 <Sex_Cult_Leader> it's when it's an inconvenience for the dev or the industry
Jul 22 17:21:31 <bossbaby> thats not even true aweigh
Jul 22 17:21:39 <bossbaby> they had multiple huge threads of it
Jul 22 17:21:43 <rusty_mobile> I made a thread specifically to mock how ridiculous wotr was ad it was moved there.
Jul 22 17:22:04 <Sex_Cult_Leader> kek
Jul 22 17:22:06 <FedoraMaster> Poles, Jews - Bad news
Jul 22 17:22:19 <Gregz> <Infinitron> I generally do that when it becomes a discrete viral event that derails the thread entirely <- who the fuck are you to 'manage' viral events? Why do you have such contempt for users who have more experience and understanding of what these games are about than you do?
Jul 22 17:22:23 <rusty_mobile> A thread that was frequently linked to on 4chan & reddit was moved to an area they couldn't view
Jul 22 17:22:39 <Lutte> GD caused drama notwithstanding, I must say, the codex became a trillion times worse to use when you goys split so many things into subforums
Jul 22 17:23:11 <bossbaby> which thread rusty_mobile
Jul 22 17:23:44 <Infinitron> Gregz That's what moderators do?
Jul 22 17:23:49 <bossbaby> i think 4chan hates codex more than the other way around
Jul 22 17:23:56 <Infinitron> Let's take something not so important for instance
Jul 22 17:23:59 <bossbaby> ive seen people get accused of "being codexers"
Jul 22 17:24:02 <rusty_mobile> Don't have a link atm, I had to go shit up the main thread to get it moved back.
Jul 22 17:24:03 <Infinitron> Remember the SJW drama surrounding Ion Fury?
Jul 22 17:24:11 <Gregz> <Infinitron> Gregz That's what moderators do? <- Only moderators with an agenda, which isn't a moderator at all
Jul 22 17:24:19 <Infinitron> Is it really such a bad thing to have a separate thread for that at the same time that people also want to discuss the game?
Jul 22 17:24:37 <rusty_mobile> It is part of the game.
Jul 22 17:24:38 <FedoraMaster> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...132422908057227406/IMG_20230722_232359540.jpg
Jul 22 17:24:40 <FedoraMaster> Look at doog
Jul 22 17:24:43 <Gregz> <Infinitron> Is it really such a bad thing to have a separate thread for that at the same time that people also want to discuss the game? <- NOT WHEN THE POLITICS *IS* THE FUCKING GAME
Jul 22 17:24:47 <Lutte> it is, because some people might not consider rewarding the devs in buying the game Infinitron if they knew about it
Jul 22 17:24:47 <Infinitron> I mean for years people accused me of being an evil megathread merger
Jul 22 17:24:47 <Infinitron> Now you DO want all discussion to be in the same thread? C'mon
Jul 22 17:24:50 <Gregz> FUCK
Jul 22 17:24:55 <rusty_mobile> Your dogs are cute, fm
Jul 22 17:25:25 <Gregz> stupid complicit assholery like this is what is driving the entire fucking hobby into the ground
Jul 22 17:25:46 <Sex_Cult_Leader> Infinitron, I think people just want spontaneity, not just being redirected like sheeple
Jul 22 17:25:58 <Sex_Cult_Leader> let threads go wild sometimes
Jul 22 17:26:24 <FedoraMaster> The normal thing to do would be to tell people to shut the fuck up about bear sex if it gets out of hand
Jul 22 17:26:29 <Lutte> >Infinitron: we reject the idea of different threads for the same game >Also Infinitron: but don't talk about issues that are controversial in the megathread
Jul 22 17:26:31 <Lutte> retard.
Jul 22 17:26:35 <FedoraMaster> Not silently rip the thread apart
Jul 22 17:26:46 <Lutte> also when we had multiple game threads
Jul 22 17:26:48 <Gregz> I guess it is just pure autism X jewish genetics. He's completely unapologetic
Jul 22 17:26:54 <FedoraMaster> Oyvey is correct
Jul 22 17:26:56 <Lutte> we didn't have subforums like game drama
Jul 22 17:27:02 <rusty_mobile> I like infinitron
Jul 22 17:27:17 <rusty_mobile> he humiliated twig, keep it up
Jul 22 17:27:23 <FedoraMaster> Rusty you are obligated by the Constitution of the United States of Weimerica to stand by Israel
Jul 22 17:27:25 <bossbaby> hahaha
Jul 22 17:27:46 <Infinitron> This was a shooter where the devs bent to SJW pressure to remove a bottle of soap named "OGAY" and then brought it back
Jul 22 17:27:46 <Infinitron> 42 pages about that:https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...p-patch-after-anti-sjw-review-bombing.129233/
Jul 22 17:27:47 <Infinitron> 50 pages in the game's main thread: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...-powered-fps-by-duke-nukem-3d-mappers.117884/
Jul 22 17:27:47 <Infinitron> Seems like...a reasonable moderation decision?
Jul 22 17:28:02 <Gregz> I'm going to post this entire chat log on SF and ping DU, see what he has to say for himself
Jul 22 17:28:16 <FedoraMaster> Youll only get a wacky zany non-response Greg
Jul 22 17:28:20 <Gregz> probably
Jul 22 17:28:25 <rusty_mobile> Why would you bother gregz?
Jul 22 17:28:33 <rusty_mobile> Just move on already.
Jul 22 17:28:34 <Sex_Cult_Leader> DU has nothing to say gregz
Jul 22 17:28:39 <Sex_Cult_Leader> what rusty says
Jul 22 17:28:42 <Lutte> there is no such a thing as improving a rotten pile of wood
Jul 22 17:28:50 <Lutte> let the codex turn full resetera
Jul 22 17:28:54 <Lutte> we don't need it
