Might and Magic Last good Might and Magic title?

[rusty_shackleford]

One can argue that MM7 6-8 are not real blobbers. But to say they are not real M&M games is silly.

They're not real M&M games.

They belong in the mainline series as much as dark messiah.

I've played 2-7 & X, and the consistencies across the series are too numerous to list. Replacing the grid-based restriction with more fluid exploration was an upgrade.

Replacing the clunky combat of 6-8 was an upgrade, dark messiah is a mainline game.

 

[Butter]

but they're nothing like the actual M&M games

[Intelligence] What Rusty apparently meant is that 6-8 are very different from 1-5.

Even 3-5 are vastly different from 1-2.

 

[mediocrepoet]

but they're nothing like the actual M&M games

[Intelligence] What Rusty apparently meant is that 6-8 are very different from 1-5.

Even 3-5 are vastly different from 1-2.

And even 1-2 are significantly different from what JVC imagined when he was designing the games, ergo ipso rusto there has never been an actual mainline M&M game.

Glad we could have this quality discussion. Thanks for all your input, rusty.

 

[Storyfag]

One can argue that MM7 6-8 are not real blobbers. But to say they are not real M&M games is silly.

They're not real M&M games.

They belong in the mainline series as much as dark messiah.

I've played 2-7 & X, and the consistencies across the series are too numerous to list. Replacing the grid-based restriction with more fluid exploration was an upgrade.

Replacing the clunky combat of 6-8 was an upgrade, dark messiah is a mainline game.

It is not named properly to be that.

Spoiler

 

[Arbiter]

Glad we could have this quality discussion. Thanks for all your input, rusty.

[Lore] Rusty has always been known for controversial opinions.

 

[whocares]

I will not eat the bugs. I will not live in a pod. I will not use 2FA.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Glad we could have this quality discussion. Thanks for all your input, rusty.

[Lore] Rusty has always been known for controversial opinions taking BS contrarian positions in bad faith for the lulz.

Mild lore failure. FTFY.

 

[luj1]

The last good MM game is MMX and MM 7 before that.

 

[ELEXmakesMeHard]

The one that didn't end with you running around with laser rifles inside a spaceship.

 

[Gregz]

MMX sucks balls.

 

[Bruma Hobo]

6/7/8 aren't even the same type of game, might as well be a different series

This is not the Wizardry thread, bro.

 

[Zeriel]

Based poll results

 

[Zeriel]

One can argue that MM7 6-8 are not real blobbers. But to say they are not real M&M games is silly.

Honestly it's remarkable how consistent of a series MM was in terms of decent quality/fun gameplay. I'd argue the only really bad title was 9. Everything else is pretty good, in one way or another. Comparing it to Heroes really shows how good we had it... not that I'll ever stop being salty about us not getting MMXL's sequel, but oh well.

 

[Daemongar]

Poll is missing Swords of Xeen, but whatever - my favorite is World of Xeen, but that isn't the question.

I think the games peaked at MMVI - that game was innovative as all hell. The skill system, the good/evil option you never really expected, the promotion quests, the trainers. Then again, I really liked MMII and the exploration, and looked forward to finding new taverns in VII simple to play a new hand of Arcomage and complete that quest.

Never finished MMX - the approach didn't mesh with where the games were going. Maybe a nice homage to earlier MMs - but it isn't what I wanted. Kind of like Bard's Tale 4 - its a good game that is universally loved on its own, but not exactly a Bard's Tale.

 

[Zeriel]

Never finished MMX - the approach didn't mesh with where the games were going.

Into the garbage bin?

Going back to something that evidently worked was necessary after how MM9 went, you couldn't follow that trend. And doing a modern version of that vision (i.e, MM7/8 style of a big "open world" RPG with realtime combat that would have to compete with all modern realtime combat RPGs) was probably beyond the budget. Not sure anyone here would want them to try either, unless you want Assassin's Creed/God of War version of Might & Magic, that's what the big budget version of that would look like now.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

MMX sucks balls.

I liked it. It has a list of shortcomings that never quits and despise Ubisoft being the publisher the budget was dangerously close to "We'll pay you guys in exposure", but the good parts were solid enough to make me enjoy my time with it.

P.S. God, especially after the recent news about the company I can't wait to see Ubisoft sell the IP entirely.

 

[Baxander]

No one voted for Might and Magic II until me?
Punk ass kids.
Cleve was right about all of you all along.

 

[Jasede]

9 is legendarily terrible but I still had fun playing it so I'm voting for that one.

 

[Fearlessjay]

6 for me. I enjoyed 7 and 8 but they weren't great. 9 and 10 were awful.

 

[fantadomat]

9 is legendarily terrible but I still had fun playing it so I'm voting for that one.

It is better than 10 for sure.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

MMI for me. While I likd the others the original has the most D&D experience imho. While II improved on some things, I find the massive encounters in some combats ridiculous. Its still fun but has not "THAT FEEL" of the original. And this goes for Wizardry & Bard's Tale as well.

 

[wishbonetail]

One can argue that MM7 6-8 are not real blobbers. But to say they are not real M&M games is silly.

They're not real M&M games.

They belong in the mainline series as much as dark messiah.

I've played 2-7 & X, and the consistencies across the series are too numerous to list. Replacing the grid-based restriction with more fluid exploration was an upgrade.

I concur. You can feel from MM2 to MM8 they belong to the same bloodline, tile-based or not. Although i cannot say the same about MMX.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Is the grid tile-based movement what kills MMX mostly? Or is it that ubisoft are fags having it be online all the time to fucking play the game. IMHO, that's the bullshit. I have the game on one laptop but I recall having a pirated version somewhere. I don't know if you can play the pirated version off-line. I'm not sure where that file even is. Steam is one thing, but third party requiring you to log in or be online to play the game offline is just fucking stupid.

 

[Butter]

Why would the grid movement be the problem? Most of the games in the series use a grid.

 

[Gregz]

Is the grid tile-based movement what kills MMX mostly? Or is it that ubisoft are fags having it be online all the time to fucking play the game. IMHO, that's the bullshit. I have the game on one laptop but I recall having a pirated version somewhere. I don't know if you can play the pirated version off-line. I'm not sure where that file even is. Steam is one thing, but third party requiring you to log in or be online to play the game offline is just fucking stupid.

"grid tile-based movement" is fine, but the way it was implemented by ubisoft was terrible. MMX is a clumsy and poorly implemented knockoff of a M&M game.